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		<title>Unedited thoughts on Seymour Krim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fans of Seymour Krim show up here and there, and writer and editor Ezra Glinter showed up at Zeek. He interviewed me about my new Krim collection, Missing a Beat, and I talked and talked.
Here it is.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fans of Seymour Krim show up here and there, and writer and editor <a href="http://www.ezraunbound.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Ezra Glinter</a> showed up at Zeek. He interviewed me about my new Krim collection, Missing a Beat, and I talked and talked.</p>
<p>Here it <a href="http://zeek.forward.com/articles/116886/" target="_blank">is</a>.</p>
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		<title>&#8220;To find a shoe has always been my dream.&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markcohen12</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, what a sweetie.  We need a million more like her.
&#8220;To find a shoe has always been my dream,&#8221; is what Armenian doctoral student, Diana Zardaryan, told a New York Times reporter about her discovery of a 5,500-year-old leather shoe during a dig in Armenia.
How many people have their own individual dreams like Zardaryan? Too few. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, what a sweetie.  We need a million more like her.</p>
<p>&#8220;To find a shoe has always been my dream,&#8221; is what Armenian doctoral student, Diana Zardaryan, told a <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10shoe.html?scp=2&amp;sq=armenia&amp;st=cse" target="_blank">New York Times</a> reporter about her discovery of a 5,500-year-old leather shoe during a dig in Armenia.</p>
<p>How many people have their own individual dreams like Zardaryan? Too few. We dream the common dreams, leftover dreams &#8212; doggy-bag dreams &#8212; of fame and wealth, not ancient shoes or their equivalent.</p>
<p>We need a new movement of shoe dreamers.</p>
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		<title>Krim gets whacked, not made (He&#8217;s gone. Whaddya mean? Well, you know what I mean. He&#8217;s gone.)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markcohen12</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The premise of my Missing a Beat collection was, first, that the Beats dumped Seymour Krim. It&#8217;s like that scene in Goodfellas when DeNiro gets the news that Joe Pesci, instead of being made, got whacked.
&#8220;He&#8217;s gone.&#8221;
&#8220;Whaddya mean? asks DeNiro.
&#8220;Well, you know what I mean. He&#8217;s gone.&#8221;
Well, I just got news like that about Krim. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The premise of my <a href="http://stumblingintojews.com/missing-a-beat/" target="_blank">Missing a Beat</a> collection was, first, that the Beats dumped Seymour Krim. It&#8217;s like that scene in Goodfellas when DeNiro gets the news that Joe Pesci, instead of being made, got whacked.</p>
<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s gone.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Whaddya mean? asks DeNiro.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, you know what I mean. He&#8217;s gone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I just got news like that about Krim. But in my case, it was good news.</p>
<p>Not long after my book came out I saw that a new history of the Beats was also coming out. <a href="http://http://www.amazon.com/Typewriter-Holy-Complete-Uncensored-Generation/dp/1416592423" target="_blank">The Typewriter is Holy: The Complete Uncensored History of the Beat Generation</a> threatened my whole thesis. Certainly any book that is complete would have to mention Krim, at least as editor of the <em>The Beats</em> (1960).</p>
<p>So I kept checking Amazon, waiting for the moment the publisher allowed searches inside the book so I could check the index and figure out how much humble pie I would have to eat. Would there be just one or two mentions, that I could dismiss as insignificant, or  a handful that would force me to concede that the Beats were not literary Goodfellas? They didn&#8217;t whack Krim. He was just in witness protection.</p>
<p>But when the index came on line I learned that Krim is with Hoffa. Krim is swimming with the fishes alongside Luca Brasi.</p>
<p>Or as the voice on the phone told DeNiro, &#8221;He&#8217;s gone. And we couldn&#8217;t do nothing about it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Seymour Krim does the Flat Foot Floogie</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markcohen12</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[About a million years ago SUNY Buffalo flew me up to the campus to entice me into its English PhD program, and they arranged for me to meet Prof. Mark Shechner, then already a noted critic who went on to become a star on the Jewish American lit scene that was also my beat.
I didn&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About a million years ago SUNY Buffalo flew me up to the campus to entice me into its English PhD program, and they arranged for me to meet <a href="http://wings.buffalo.edu/english/faculty/shechner/" target="_blank">Prof. Mark Shechner</a>, then already a noted critic who went on to become a star on the Jewish American lit scene that was also my beat.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t go to Buffalo. A decision that has given me endless opportunities for Krimiam regrets.</p>
<p>Then some weeks ago Shechner contacted me. He knew Krim and was working on a review of <em>Missing a Beat</em>. That review is now up at <a href="http://www.tabletmag.com/arts-and-culture/books/35280/ecstatic/" target="_blank">Tablet Magazine</a>, and it is a terrific remembrance of Krim.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s it all mean, Mr. Natural? It means that our ability to take advantage of America&#8217;s much vaunted unlimited opportunities is in fact quite limited by our characters, which direct us in certain paths to the exclusion of all others. Following that limited path is the route to unlimited opportunities.</p>
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		<title>Jewish Book World offers shrewd appreciation of Seymour Krim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markcohen12</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Summer 2010 issue of Jewish Book World includes a succinct and sharp-eyed review of Missing a Beat. This sentence is about a good a summary of the book as any,
&#8220;This volume brings together several highly individualistic documents of an era that is all too easily caricatured and dismissed, showing the surprising range of views that were possible (if [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Summer 2010 issue of <a href="http://jewishbookcouncil.org/page.php?11" target="_blank">Jewish Book World</a> includes a succinct and sharp-eyed review of <em>Missing a Beat</em>. This sentence is about a good a summary of the book as any,</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>This volume brings together several highly individualistic documents of an era that is all too easily caricatured and dismissed, showing the surprising range of views that were possible (if not popular) within the bounds of 1950’s and 1960’s hipness, especially in matters of race and ethnicity</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p>The review closes with this applause for Krim,</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Confessional writing as candid as this is both rare and refreshing</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I say.</p>
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		<title>Krim getting enough attention to make him uncomfortable</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vol. 1 Brooklyn this morning took notice of the ripples that Krim has lately made and wonders if he might finally be getting his due among a new generation of Jewish writers.
That would be nice. But it wouldn&#8217;t please Krim. If he was here the very possibility would fill him with enough conflicted sensations to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://vol1brooklyn.com/" target="_blank">Vol. 1 Brooklyn</a> this morning took <a href="http://vol1brooklyn.com/2010/06/01/is-seymour-krim-the-patron-saint-of-todays-jewish-writers/" target="_blank">notice</a> of the ripples that Krim has lately made and wonders if he might finally be getting his due among a new generation of Jewish writers.</p>
<p>That would be nice. But it wouldn&#8217;t please Krim. If he was here the very possibility would fill him with enough conflicted sensations to furnish a library.</p>
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		<title>Canonize this Jew: A bid to get Krim past the literary gate-keepers</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Chronicle of Higher Education has published my argument that Seymour Krim be added to reading lists, anthologies, and departments of Jewish literature and cultural studies.
What got me going on the Seymour Krim kick that led to Missing a Beat was his omission from every Beat anthology since the 1992 Portable Beat Reader. That led me [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://chronicle.com/section/Home/5" target="_blank">The Chronicle of Higher Education</a> has published my <a href="http://chronicle.com/article/Canonize-This-Jew-A-Tribute/65677/" target="_blank">argument</a> that Seymour Krim be added to reading lists, anthologies, and departments of Jewish literature and cultural studies.</p>
<p>What got me going on the Seymour Krim kick that led to <a href="http://stumblingintojews.com/missing-a-beat/" target="_blank">Missing a Beat</a> was his omission from every Beat anthology since the 1992 <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Beat-Reader-Ann-Charters/dp/0142437530/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1275411694&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank">Portable Beat Reader</a>. That led me to wonder why, since the man edited <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gold-medal-books-Lawrence-Ferlinghetti/dp/B0007H2HGQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1275411788&amp;sr=1-5" target="_blank">The Beats</a> in 1960 and was included in <a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3334/3177323599_fbe3da66f4.jpg?v=0" target="_blank">The Beat Scene</a> the same year. (His name is on the cover, fourth from the top.)</p>
<p>I finally decided the Beat editors had a case, because in our time of multicultural tripwires everyone is on alert for signs of ethnicity to be sensitive about, and Krim&#8217;s work is full of Jewish content. So the Beat collections apparently decided to tiptoe around him. Let the Jewish editors handle him.</p>
<p>The Jewish editors didn&#8217;t. But they should.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like John Lennon once said when threatened with deportation from his adopted New York home. New York is full of criminals, degenerates, and crazy people. I fit right in, said Lennon.</p>
<p>Well, Jewish literature is replete with anger, resentments, longings for beauty, intellectualism, sex, nostalgia, madness, and heavyweight bouts of nonstop talk. Krim fits right in.</p>
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		<title>Seymour Krim review in Los Angeles Times</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markcohen12</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Akiva Gottlieb nailed the Krimian essence in the LA Times book review of Missing a Beat,
&#8220;Krim&#8217;s verbose, misogynistic, endlessly vulgar vernacular caught some of the bop inflections of the Beat era, but the Beats never welcomed him. Certainly he cared more about the concrete than the numinous: You wouldn&#8217;t find a naked Krim penning odes to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akiva Gottlieb nailed the Krimian essence in the <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/30/entertainment/la-ca-seymour-krim-20100530" target="_blank">LA Times book review</a> of <a href="http://stumblingintojews.com/missing-a-beat/" target="_blank">Missing a Beat</a>,</p>
<p>&#8220;Krim&#8217;s verbose, misogynistic, endlessly vulgar vernacular caught some of the bop inflections of the Beat era, but the Beats never welcomed him. Certainly he cared more about the concrete than the numinous: You wouldn&#8217;t find a naked Krim penning odes to the higher consciousness on the beach at Big Sur. More urgent was the psychic tsunami of personal need, the prickly everyday demands of solipsism. Nobody else wrote about status-envy and disgruntlement with the same level of honesty. Nobody else thought it worth the risk.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except I&#8217;m not sure about the misogynistic part. But I&#8217;ll take that up elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>New review of Seymour Krim book praises his Harlem pieces</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s been interesting to see that Seymour Krim&#8217;s entertaining, honest, and outrageous articles on Harlem and New York black life have been embraced by reviewers who disagree otherwise. There&#8217;s something there that can&#8217;t be denied.
From NewWorld Review,
&#8220;If Krim does occasionally lapse into self-indulgence, he also exhibits one of the most acute and, ironically, objective social [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been interesting to see that Seymour Krim&#8217;s entertaining, honest, and outrageous articles on Harlem and New York black life have been embraced by reviewers who disagree otherwise. There&#8217;s something there that can&#8217;t be denied.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.neworldreview.com/vol_3No_10/missing.html" target="_blank">NewWorld Review</a>,</p>
<p><em>&#8220;If Krim does occasionally lapse into self-indulgence, he also exhibits one of the most acute and, ironically, objective social senses that I have ever encountered, particularly in relation to black/white relations in an urban environment. </em>Black English<em>, </em>Anti-Jazz<em>, and </em>Ask for a White Cadillac<em> are simply some of the most honest writing that I have seen on the subject of black American culture, written by a non-black</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p>And in <a href="http://www.bookforum.com/inprint/017_01/5360" target="_blank">Bookforum </a>Vivian Gornick wrote,</p>
<p><em>&#8220;On the other hand, there is the series of remarkably penetrating essays, written out of Krim&#8217;s own experience, on what it meant, in the &#8217;50s, to be a white boy prowling Harlem for sex and music. Today, these pieces are as wise and moving as they were on the day they were written.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>His 1957 article for the <em>Village Voice</em>, &#8220;Anti-Jazz,&#8221; his 1959 follow-up article for the alternative journal <em>Exodus</em>, &#8220;Ask for a White Cadillac,&#8221; and his previously unpublished &#8220;Black English, or the Motherfucker Culture,&#8221; are unmatched in white writing about black life and almost completely unknown. Krim does not just report about what is out there in black life, but what goes on inside him in response to what he sees and understands of black life.</p>
<p>And in <em>Black English</em> he wrote one of the greatest, most successful, musical, energetic, joy-inducing sentences I&#8217;ve ever read. It follows Krim&#8217;s admission that blacks&#8217; public use of obscenities on the streets of New York is a justifiable political act, that it rebukes white America and presents whites with the dirty facts of black existence caused by white racism.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;I accept this is true, but at the same time as a user and lover of our common language I protest as much as anyone the self-indulgence of its wallowing, the attack on my standards and privacy, the unwanted bath in street-corner biology, the unasked-for intimacy that the user’s imagery creates, the nerve, the chutzpah, presumption, contempt with which my ear is used as a free toilet bowl by some cunt-struck black cat who wants to impose his sadomasochistic fantasies on the world, thinking that by yoking them to a clenched fist he has the right to smear my head with ignorance, obsession, the meat-view of life, hammering down every nuance and creative possibility into a monotone of one-syllable appetite and force.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">Wow. </span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style: normal;">I said <a href="http://stumblingintojews.com/bookforum-reviews-missing-a-beat/" target="_blank">before</a> that every piece of writing contains some junk, and that every reader makes his own private deal regarding how much junk he&#8217;s willing to put up with in exchange for the good stuff. I&#8217;m charitable toward Krim&#8217;s excesses because I place a very high value on sentences like that one.</span></em></p>
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		<title>Yes, the blacks and the Jews, but cool this time</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 02:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markcohen12</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Head Butler is a great source for learning about great stuff and when I checked it today these lines about blues musician Junior Wells and his record, Hoodoo Man Blues, jumped off the screen and into my brain&#8217;s Seymour Krim arena,
If they sound as if they&#8217;re in a club, that&#8217;s deliberate; this is pure Chicago [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Head Butler is a great source for learning about great stuff and when I checked it today these <a href="http://www.headbutler.com/music/blues/hoodoo-man-blues" target="_blank">lines</a> about blues musician Junior Wells and his record, Hoodoo Man Blues, jumped off the screen and into my brain&#8217;s Seymour Krim arena,</p>
<p><em>If they sound as if they&#8217;re in a club, that&#8217;s deliberate; this is pure Chicago blues, raw as the liquor served in those joints and, in the slower numbers, smooth as the lines of sharp-dressed men working to seduce foxy women.</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s classic cool white Jewish guy appreciation of a certain black scene, but nobody did it better than Krim. Here&#8217;s a taste from  his 1959 &#8220;Ask for a White Cadillac,&#8221; about the same sharp-dressed approach,</p>
<p><em>And through all this street-embattled life ran the perpetual beauty of clothes, threads, duds!—bold, high-style dresses and appointments on the girls (flashing jewelry, dyed platinum-blonde hair over a tan face, elbow-length white evening gloves handcuffed with a fake black-onyx bracelet) while the guys were as button-rolled and razor-sharp as hip clotheshorses stepping right out of a showroom.</em></p>
<p>And what&#8217;s really interesting is an equivalent 1951 observation by the great A.J. Liebling. He sized up and dug a crowd showing up at New York&#8217;s Garden to take in a Joe Louis fight.</p>
<p><em>A high percentage of them were from Harlem, and they were dressed as if for a levee, the men in shimmering gabardines and felt hats the color of freshly unwrapped chewing gum, women in spring suits and fur pieces&#8212;it was a cool night&#8212;and what seemed to me the prettiest hats of the season. They seemed to me the prettiest lot of women I had seen in a long time, too, and I reflected that if the fight had been televised, I would have missed them. </em></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of vicarious living going on here. And a special Jewish appreciation for what black culture allowed and Jewish culture did not.</p>
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